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Helping those with depression?

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Not for me, I'm happy with mostly everything. How does one address depression with those nearest and dearest. I'm not very sensitive to other peoples emotions so hence I am asking for folks with some advice.
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Family or friends?
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Depressed or just sad and having a bad run? Has there been a diagnosis of depression? Medication?
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Make new friends. Avoid your family. Fucking Westerners with depression. Poofs.
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I'd definitely give this forum a pass when seeking advice on depression. There are so many other meaningful forums and sites that address this issue, why ask miscreants about it?
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Quote Originally Posted by sampiro View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937372#post1937372) Depressed or just sad and having a bad run? Has there been a diagnosis of depression? Medication? This. There's a big difference in clinical depression and a bout of sadness. Dealing with a friend/family member who has depression can be incredibly challenging.
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You don't 'deal' with clinical depression. It just is, like the weather.
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Suicide is never the answer, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be a healthy part of the discussion.
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Quote Originally Posted by GeneralMalaise View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937371#post1937371) Family Family Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mandude View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937384#post1937384) There are so many other meaningful forums and sites that address this issue, why ask miscreants about it? Perhaps some folks have a depressed family member who lives far away from Thailand.
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Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mandude View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937384#post1937384) I'd definitely give this forum a pass when seeking advice on depression. There are so many other meaningful forums and sites that address this issue, why ask miscreants about it? Can you really not guess? Quote Originally Posted by sampiro View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937385#post1937385) You don't 'deal' with clinical depression. It just is, like the weather. Which you...umm...deal with, right? Or are you more the 'bark at the moon' than the 'take an umbrella' type?
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Quote Originally Posted by Cyrille View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937395#post1937395) Can you really not guess? I have to play along a little bit as part of his therapy.
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Quote Originally Posted by GeneralMalaise View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937381#post1937381) Fucking Westerners with depression. Poofs. So you are taking the stance of 'man up and get over it?' Doesn't happen. Depression is real to the sufferers. It's the abyss. The boogeyman, the lepers in your head. Scared shitless but helpless. The light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I emphasize with sufferers.
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^ [image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/images/smilies/wow.gif] Quote Originally Posted by sampiro View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937398#post1937398) The light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train Running on tired lines. [image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/images//whistleblower.gif]
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Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mandude View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937384#post1937384) I'd definitely give this forum a pass when seeking advice on depression. There are so many other meaningful forums and sites that address this issue, why ask miscreants about it? hmm...what is sebs next thread gonna be..."ive been abducted by aliens. what should i do to escape?". or maybe "ive just been told i have 2 weeks to live. what should i do on my last days?" theres just no end to it...[image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/images/smilies/laugh.gif] ---Update--- considering the forum, i cant think of a more potentially vacuous thread than this.
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Quote Originally Posted by samsara View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937425#post1937425) i cant think of a more potentially vacuous thread than this. Well that's pretty conclusive.
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Quote Originally Posted by sampiro View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937398#post1937398) I emphasize with sufferers... That just makes it worse, right? [image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/images/smilies/rock.gif]
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Quote Originally Posted by GeneralMalaise View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937441#post1937441) That just makes it worse, right? C'mon general, why not call 'im a 'sissy boy' or 'nancy pants?' lol
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sometimes i get the menstrual cramps real hard
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Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1975353#post1975353) sometimes i get the menstrual cramps real hard when my wife does i get depressed...
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Quote Originally Posted by samsara View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937425#post1937425) hmm...what is sebs next thread gonna be..."ive been abducted by aliens. what should i do to escape?". or maybe "ive just been told i have 2 weeks to live. what should i do on my last days?" I thought Buddahas was the one who got a deadly disease on a weekly basis.
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Helping those with depression? (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/showthread.php?t=79392&page=2) Get their cock sucked. It aint rocket salad.
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Quote Originally Posted by pathumseb View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1937365#post1937365) How does one address depression with those nearest and dearest. First of all, encourage them to get professional help, if the person recognises the depression it should be pretty straightforward, if not then things get tricky. Other than that, just be a friend, always be prepared to just listen and to talk about things. Avoid passing judgement or making suggestions on how to 'get over it'. Let them know you value them and the positive things they do. Offer support but don't impose it.
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Depression is fucked, no two ways about it. From the outside it's hard to take seriously until it's too late. I reckon it is rife in the expat community in LoS, but it goes unaddressed because it's so easy to mask, and function 'normally'. In some ways I think living Thailand is itself a symptom of mental illness, certainly it's hardly the hallmark of a sane mind.
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Quote Originally Posted by markle View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1975703#post1975703) just be a friend, always be prepared to just listen and to talk about things. Quote Originally Posted by markle View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1975703#post1975703) Avoid passing judgement or making suggestions on how to 'get over it' Quote Originally Posted by markle View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1975705#post1975705) Depression is fucked, no two ways about it. Quote Originally Posted by markle View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1975705#post1975705) but it goes unaddressed because it's so easy to mask, and function 'normally [image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/images/smilies/clap.gif] [image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/images/smilies/clap.gif] wise words Quote Originally Posted by markle View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1975705#post1975705) In some ways I think living Thailand is itself a symptom of mental illness, interesting. in terms of isolating oneself, there might be some truth in that.
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Really good words markle. Green when I get off tapatalk
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Quote Originally Posted by markle View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1975705#post1975705) In some ways I think living Thailand is itself a symptom of mental illness, certainly it's hardly the hallmark of a sane mind. theres little doubt this thesis could be greatly supported. could probably come up with something similar for those who choose teaching as a career. and then for those that choose to teach long-term in thailand...well...[image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/images/smilies/grin.gif]
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Maybe I am depressed and mentally disturbed, yet no one feels sorry for me.
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...^Mother Teresa waits for you in heaven...don't disappoint her...
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Quote Originally Posted by samsara View Post (http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/showthread.php?p=1975720#post1975720) could probably come up with something similar for those who choose teaching as a career. living in thailand is very isolating. people (like me) who come back for more, might be simply expressing their will to be alone, of sorts. choosing a teaching career is a sign of those wanting to connect. the fact that its really only job available for a tefler might not be a factor. that is, they may not have chosen teaching more so than they chose to come to thailand. so they wanted thailand, but many, not giving a toss about learning thai...coincidence? no coincidence. they want to be left alone. so that says enough about their choice. the option to teach in thailand is just a pathway. but the real choice was to go away....very very far away. its says something. [image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/images/smilies/dontknow.gif] about some people. [image: http://ajarnforum.net/vb/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif] sometimes. [image: http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/health-and-fitness-in-thailand/images/smilies/grin.gif]

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